Mozilla 1.1 Final

[Mark]

For those of you who're interested, Mozilla 1.1 Final is out.
http://www.mozilla.org

[kazzi]

If anyone is still using M$ Explorer or Netscape, you gotta try this one out. Mozilla IS impressive - and fast. You'll never look back. :D

[minoka]

When outpost is running, this version of Mozilla as well as the previous one wants an outbound tcp connection to Localhost whenever I launch it (mozilla) offline.
Why is this?

[David]

Hi minoka,

I am not sure, but maybe this is because internet browsers can load content from your file system as well as from the internet. For a browser to load things from your file system, it would communicate with LocalHost 127.0.0.1. That is just a guess though. :)

[RISC OS]

Its the password manager that needs to connect to localhost, whether you actually use the pm or not.

These rules should suffice

Inbound
TCP
Remote Host: LocalHost
Remote Port: 2095
Local Host: 2094
Local Port: LocalHost

Outbound
TCP
Remote Host: LocalHost
Remote Port: 2094
Local Host: 2095
Local Port: LocalHost

I only use Mozilla for testing that web pages appear ok, so you may need other ports but I haven't noticed it use any others, however if you do need others and you have disabled loopback global rule then a rule from 1024-5000 will be fine.

[RISC OS]

Originally posted by kazzi
If anyone is still using M$ Explorer or Netscape, you gotta try this one out. Mozilla IS impressive - and fast. You'll never look back. :D

Well I have to say I only use Moz. for testing, I much prefer IE as a browser (purely as a browser, not from any security perspective) its parser is much better then any other, konqueror's khtml is getting quite fast and compliant but it's linux only :(. Netscape/Moz. usage is now very low (depending on what you read it's either at less then 5% or between 10-15%, most point to less then 5%). It's kind of a geeks browser, most of its usage is by Linux users. IE has certainly won the browser wars :D

I'll stick with IE for now, though Opera's not bad.

[minoka]

Thanks for the replies.

Forgot the rule: I just denied the tcp outbound connection request to localhost without specifying a port.
I also tried the rules posted in this thread but they did not stop the requests, the port number seems to change with every request ! So far no ill effect with my rule...

[jancarlssonswe]

I started with Mosaic and then I used Netscape, Internet Explorer and Opera from their very beginning. In Mozilla with its mail-client I found all I wanted. I agree with Kazzi. Mozilla is now my default.

[kazzi]

Rick OS " I'll stick with IE for now, though Opera's not bad."

Each to their own. IE gave me mega headaches and caused many forced reboots even though I constantly updated it. Presently I use Mozilla and you'll be pleased to know - Opera. Now and again I download the same page on each and ......................... wait for it .................. Mozilla wins.
I do await Opera 7 which is due for release any time now apparantly.
:D

[RISC OS]

Hello Kazzi,

Speed doesn't matter, what matters is how a page is rendered after parsing. None of the browsers are truly compliant (no matter what they say on the web sites about compliance - just subscribe to some w3c mailing lists and your see what I mean ;)).

Having said that though the typical end user couldn't care less about compliance, most people who use the Internet have never heard about the W3C or what standards browsers are suppossed to comply to, the only people who really care about compliance are web designers.

What about Mozilla's interface? Do you like that? I like the way the differemt components are intergrated but I personally don't like the interface. Also it takes to long to start unless you have quick launch enabled and that means having a 20MB program running in the background.

I like Operas interface (but I don't like the hotlist) and their mail client needs more features, it's very basic. Also I find Opera parses pages the quickest.

[kazzi]

Hey RISC OS,

Luckily I got me lots of memory on a flying machine so Mozilla quick launch is running. I got a neat 'theme' so everything is compact. I never use browser mail facilities - having always used Eudora. I also got me Mailwasher in the background to help. I just love all this technology and how I managed without my pride and joy for 2 weeks in Spain this summer, G only knows. Obviously 'speed' and everything depends on download time. I use Freeserve - which you will be familiar with and i'm certain connection is determined by the weather - it's never consistant. Going to get me ASDL soon so I will be able to pick the browser like some women pick the Derby winner - by its color! (This will confuse those across the pond)

Have a good one & enjoy what's left of the summer. :D